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| − | + | These Floppy Disc Drives are not the original Amstrad standard. | |
| − | Yet they were far | + | Yet they were far cheaper and are nowadays easier to use. |
| − | Especially the 3½" | + | Especially the 3½" as these disk are still available in some retailers. You can also easily find such drives in any garbage if you properly scavenge old rusty computers. |
| − | + | These Disks couldn't be side switched manually. | |
| − | The older models | + | The older models used only one side (360 KB) |
| − | + | Double side (DD) or even High Density were available. | |
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| + | [[image:3.5.jpg|200px|thumb|Internal 3.5" drive]] | ||
| + | [[image:5,25_cable.jpg|200px|thumb|advertisement for 5,25" drive cable for CPC in 1990]] | ||
==Formats == | ==Formats == | ||
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3"1/2 | 3"1/2 | ||
| − | *DD = | + | *DD = 720KB |
| − | *HD : 1,44 | + | *HD : 1,44 MB |
5"1/4 | 5"1/4 | ||
| − | * | + | *360KB |
| − | *1 | + | *1.2MB |
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Nowaday, only HD 3"1/2 disk can be found at good old retailer's. | Nowaday, only HD 3"1/2 disk can be found at good old retailer's. | ||
| − | But | + | But our beloved CPC can't understand easily the concept of High Density Disk with 1,44MB available... |
So you have to cheat : just put some duct-tape (scotch-tape, whatever...) on the HD Hole. | So you have to cheat : just put some duct-tape (scotch-tape, whatever...) on the HD Hole. | ||
| − | Tada, a proper DD disk with 720 | + | Tada, a proper DD disk with 720 KB (if your OS allows it). |
| − | Or a common | + | Or a common 2x178KB with [[AMSDOS|AMSDOS]] (stock CPC firmware) - if you have a manual side switcher button of course to read second side of disk. |
| − | + | ||
PC users used to do the opposite : file a HD hole on DD disk...this worked well sometimes. | PC users used to do the opposite : file a HD hole on DD disk...this worked well sometimes. | ||
| + | |||
| + | You can also modify your HD drive to behave as a DD one (but this would be permanent of course).. Check for appropriate jumpers on your drive! | ||
== A clever choice == | == A clever choice == | ||
| − | A great advantage at the time (in the 80's) was to get access to CP/M sofware library, as most of those were on such Floppy | + | A great advantage at the time (in the 80's) was to get access to CP/M sofware library, as most of those were on such Floppy Disks. |
| − | Also, those Floppy | + | Also, those Floppy Disks were far cheaper than the exotic 3", but... few CPC users actually own such drives. |
Mostly professionnal users...The common snotling Gamer couldn't even dream of this (nor even knew it possible)... until nowadays. | Mostly professionnal users...The common snotling Gamer couldn't even dream of this (nor even knew it possible)... until nowadays. | ||
As the magnetic disk is bigger...well the format is bigger too. | As the magnetic disk is bigger...well the format is bigger too. | ||
| − | It is common to get | + | It is common to get 720KB disk (using the 2 sides, so 80 tracks) |
== Software's issues == | == Software's issues == | ||
| − | Many Modern CPC users replace their old 3" | + | Many Modern CPC users replace their old 3" with an external 3"1/2, often adding a Disk drive A-B / B-A switcher (allowing the use of an external disk Drive as if it were the internal one = Drive A) and/or a side switcher to allow the use of a 3"1/2 disk like a 3" disk... switching manually the sides as needed by good old 3" disk drives (yet a decent software can do it). |
| + | The side switcher and A-B drive's switchers are needed only if you use old software (using [[AMSDOS|AMSDOS]]), as most of them couldn't really figure they were loaded from B drives, or had no such feature as double sided drives. | ||
| − | + | They were designed for good old 3" drive so the 720KB DD external 3"1/2 is not implemented. | |
| − | + | But modern software designers can allow this fairly easily. | |
| − | |||
| + | Orion Prime uses the Double side feature, enabling a simple 720KB disk with no manual side switches. | ||
| − | + | Rick Dangerous 128+ (1.1 add-on) seems to allow the game to be loaded from the B drive. | |
| − | |||
| + | It is up to the CPC-scene to design their software to include those options, allowing more un-modded drives to be simply used as external B drives with no need to add extra buttons and cable assemblies on the Amstrad. | ||
| − | + | As modifying all the software library of the good old times seems impractical, yet modern era software have to use this. | |
| − | + | == Software released on 3.5" disk== | |
| − | + | * [[Orion Prime]] - This pure awsomeness even uses a full DD disk's 80 tracks with more than 700KB of Data, but you have to have a proper DD disk drive, as some older models may lack this feature... | |
| − | + | == Software released on 5.25" disk== | |
| − | + | ||
| + | * [[Data Media]] released several software titles for use with their [[Data Media Disc System]] | ||
== Non 3" CPC disk drives == | == Non 3" CPC disk drives == | ||
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*any scavenged rusty junk may be good enough nowaday, if you have a 664 or 6128... | *any scavenged rusty junk may be good enough nowaday, if you have a 664 or 6128... | ||
| − | == | + | == Guides == |
[[Guide on how to connect a 3.5]]<br> | [[Guide on how to connect a 3.5]]<br> | ||
[[Guide on how to connect a 3.5" drive to a CPC6128/664]] with photos | [[Guide on how to connect a 3.5" drive to a CPC6128/664]] with photos | ||
| + | [[Amstrad Computer User]] magazine published a two-page guide on how to connect a 5.25" drive to a CPC 464: | ||
| + | <gallery> | ||
| + | image:ACU8505-082.jpg | ||
| + | image:ACU8505-085.jpg | ||
| + | </gallery> | ||
[[Category:Hardware]][[Category:Peripherals]][[Category:DATA Storage]] | [[Category:Hardware]][[Category:Peripherals]][[Category:DATA Storage]] | ||
Latest revision as of 05:04, 25 April 2018
These Floppy Disc Drives are not the original Amstrad standard.
Yet they were far cheaper and are nowadays easier to use.
Especially the 3½" as these disk are still available in some retailers. You can also easily find such drives in any garbage if you properly scavenge old rusty computers.
These Disks couldn't be side switched manually. The older models used only one side (360 KB) Double side (DD) or even High Density were available.
Contents
Formats
3"1/2
- DD = 720KB
- HD : 1,44 MB
5"1/4
- 360KB
- 1.2MB
Beware : HD
Nowaday, only HD 3"1/2 disk can be found at good old retailer's.
But our beloved CPC can't understand easily the concept of High Density Disk with 1,44MB available...
So you have to cheat : just put some duct-tape (scotch-tape, whatever...) on the HD Hole. Tada, a proper DD disk with 720 KB (if your OS allows it). Or a common 2x178KB with AMSDOS (stock CPC firmware) - if you have a manual side switcher button of course to read second side of disk.
PC users used to do the opposite : file a HD hole on DD disk...this worked well sometimes.
You can also modify your HD drive to behave as a DD one (but this would be permanent of course).. Check for appropriate jumpers on your drive!
A clever choice
A great advantage at the time (in the 80's) was to get access to CP/M sofware library, as most of those were on such Floppy Disks.
Also, those Floppy Disks were far cheaper than the exotic 3", but... few CPC users actually own such drives.
Mostly professionnal users...The common snotling Gamer couldn't even dream of this (nor even knew it possible)... until nowadays.
As the magnetic disk is bigger...well the format is bigger too. It is common to get 720KB disk (using the 2 sides, so 80 tracks)
Software's issues
Many Modern CPC users replace their old 3" with an external 3"1/2, often adding a Disk drive A-B / B-A switcher (allowing the use of an external disk Drive as if it were the internal one = Drive A) and/or a side switcher to allow the use of a 3"1/2 disk like a 3" disk... switching manually the sides as needed by good old 3" disk drives (yet a decent software can do it).
The side switcher and A-B drive's switchers are needed only if you use old software (using AMSDOS), as most of them couldn't really figure they were loaded from B drives, or had no such feature as double sided drives.
They were designed for good old 3" drive so the 720KB DD external 3"1/2 is not implemented.
But modern software designers can allow this fairly easily.
Orion Prime uses the Double side feature, enabling a simple 720KB disk with no manual side switches.
Rick Dangerous 128+ (1.1 add-on) seems to allow the game to be loaded from the B drive.
It is up to the CPC-scene to design their software to include those options, allowing more un-modded drives to be simply used as external B drives with no need to add extra buttons and cable assemblies on the Amstrad.
As modifying all the software library of the good old times seems impractical, yet modern era software have to use this.
Software released on 3.5" disk
- Orion Prime - This pure awsomeness even uses a full DD disk's 80 tracks with more than 700KB of Data, but you have to have a proper DD disk drive, as some older models may lack this feature...
Software released on 5.25" disk
- Data Media released several software titles for use with their Data Media Disc System
Non 3" CPC disk drives
- Data Media Disc System
- Jasmin AM5D 5 "1/4 floppy drive
- KDS 5¼" Disc Drive (KDS Electronics)
- Vortex Disc Drives (Vortex)
- any scavenged rusty junk may be good enough nowaday, if you have a 664 or 6128...
Guides
Guide on how to connect a 3.5
Guide on how to connect a 3.5" drive to a CPC6128/664 with photos
Amstrad Computer User magazine published a two-page guide on how to connect a 5.25" drive to a CPC 464:
