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==Questions...==
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--[[User:TFM|TFM]] 18:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)== Background informations ==
  
Hmm.. are there any applications for Future OS?
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If there are some questions about hardware, let's discuss it here, NOT in the text. If you f.e. don't know the company Lindy and their products for the CPC then this does not mean that Lindy was not existing, it just means you should update your personal informations. Please research first, then ask. It makes no sense to proove the existence of some pieces of hardware every three months again. If you don't know it, then ask here.
And can i really add any device and it will be recommended by the system without any device driver?
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--[[User:TFM|TFM]] 20:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Unbelievable!! and much better than SymbOS then, isn't it?
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:Who are you? What is your name? Fear to sign? You seem not to be serious. But I try to answer serious.
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:Okay, then I'll try asking here. Btw. before messing with the futureos page, I tried to contact you elsewhere - but that didn't work - the link to your webpage was broken, the email address was broken, and the "futureos hardware" thread last week in the forum didn't get too much replies either, it only sounded as if nobody knows what hardware you are referring to. So that's why I added the unclear portions. Anyways, can you check the questions in forum? http://cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php/topic,562.0.html - nocash
:First you can't compare SymbOS and FutureOS. They're too different and therefore I use them both.
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:Software for FutureOS is availabe in the Yahoo-Group, where you can download it.
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:And yes, I try to support nearly all hardware for the CPC. Ok, some is still missing, but this will change soon I hope.
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:About features: Ok, I haven't finished the new documentation in english. But if I look at other projects, I have to believe, so believe me too.
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:That would only be fair.
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:I have no time to explain the 126th time where some support function ist. RTFM, but the new version coming soon.
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:Greets to all honest CPC sceners,
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::I know the problems with the web page, well the provider is CMO ,-) What else to say. I'm a customer there just due to some sentimental reasons, not because of the excellent service and pricing *coffing*. And yes my tfm@futureos.de email is broken too. However a PM here will always work. For any kind of discussions I would suggest also the FutureOS yahoo group, because a lot of people can answer there too. Further the Wiki is not complete, which means I own CPC hardware and I support it with FutureOS, but you won't find it in the Wiki now. Another point, please don't expect me to be in the forum that often, as a researcher I'm glad to have some time for the CPC at all. So please be patient if something isn't answered quick or at all. There is no bad intention, no lack of interrest, but my day only has 36 hours ;-).
:TFM
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:: Please try to keep your tone down. I'm letting this here as an example of what NOT to say. RTFM is NOT part of the language that will be tolerated here, if we want to keep a flame war out of our wiki; so please keep this in mind. And please don't jump to conclusions - several users still do not know about signing their entries! It seems to me the original poster was more positive than negative, so you could try and calmly answer to his questions, otherwise there's no reason in replying at all. This is NOT a debate room, and fights will NOT ('''NOT!''') be welcome here. You do not need to be apologetic (as you are in a couple of points) about anything that FutureOS may be lacking, since it's a wonderful system anyhow, but also taking it to the other extreme doesn't exactly help things either.
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::Best regards,  
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::[[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 16:02, 10 August 2006 (CEST)
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== What's about respecting some rules? ==
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As this is not Wikipedia but our own scene CPCWiki, I wouldn't like to force the articles to follow strict rules, but at least the following two rules should be respected by everyone:
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* no advertisment-like phrases
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* no false information
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The following parts in this article should be removed and replaced in a section like "possible plans for the future":
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* IDE support (mentioned several times, and first I mixed v8 with v9, but as it should only be a possible part of v9 [and now even v8 isn't released], it will not be implemented before 2007 or later, right?)
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* CPC Booster support (you can't call an entry in the port monitor "support")
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* Multi tasking (I couldn't find any references)
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If I am wrong, and these features are already implemented in FutureOS and ready for download, please provide us a link.
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Some other parts should also be removed:
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* One-drive restriction of other OSs (nearly every OS can do this, even Amsdos allows drive letters in a path)
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* Advertisment-like phrases (e.g. "FutureOS is for programmers who want to use the CPC at its limits" and other ones; these should be better placed on a homepage but not in a Wiki)
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-- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 00:05, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
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:I sense a scene fight coming on, I'm afraid... I do not wish to take any part in it, especially since I do not know anything about the common history of projects, but I hope it stays off the wiki!
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::Well, in general it is quite easy to follow some necessary rules, so I am not afraid about fights. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 10:24, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
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:I'll have to agree with some of Prodatron's remarks. The article needs heavy editing (I have altered several points myself, more is needed) so as to not appear as a commercial for FutureOS but more like an objective article. Also, at points it becomes more of a manual than an article on the OS itself.
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:That said, even in Symbiface there was the phrase: ''It provides nearly everything you need to change your CPC into a powerful work station!'' which is more of the same :)
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::Yes, that's right. I think someone just copied & pasted this from the homepage ;) -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 10:24, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
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:To get back to Prodatron's remarks, if his points are valid the article should be corrected. If ''system .9'', as it is called in the article, indeed refers to FutureOS v9 then I also think that it should be re-written, especially since not even v8 has been released (really looking forward to it!).
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:In general, I would urge '''ALL''' contributors who are also developers, to try and keep their usual enthusiasm (read: ego ;) ) at a low, since we are trying to do an objective work and not promote one or the other product... Thanks! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 09:47, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
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I have cleaned up the whole artice, removed advertisment-like phrases, re-wrote sentences that sounded too much like advertising and thigthened the language. Articles should contain no false or biased statements in any form. Keep it clear, true, neutral and objective. This is what I tried to accomplish when editing this article.
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- 2006-08-09; Gwildor -
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:Thanks for your effort Gwildor! The article looks a bit more polished now. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 14:07, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
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I think the maximum file size currently is 512KB (19bit). I couldn't find any possibilities to load data from files, which are bigger than 512KB. Why is 16MB/24bit mentioned in the article? Also a planned feature for the future? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:02, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
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== Looks good now ==
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Thanx to everybodys' effort the article looks a lot better now. I wouldn't call "CPC Booster support" like this, but who cares. What's about summarising some very small sections and maybe removing some user-manual-like sentences? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:44, 10 August 2006 (CEST)
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:Sumarised all sections which contained only 1 or 2 sentences and removed the FioLib text in its own article. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 19:16, 10 August 2006 (CEST)
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Latest revision as of 13:38, 1 March 2010

--TFM 18:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)== Background informations ==

If there are some questions about hardware, let's discuss it here, NOT in the text. If you f.e. don't know the company Lindy and their products for the CPC then this does not mean that Lindy was not existing, it just means you should update your personal informations. Please research first, then ask. It makes no sense to proove the existence of some pieces of hardware every three months again. If you don't know it, then ask here. --TFM 20:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay, then I'll try asking here. Btw. before messing with the futureos page, I tried to contact you elsewhere - but that didn't work - the link to your webpage was broken, the email address was broken, and the "futureos hardware" thread last week in the forum didn't get too much replies either, it only sounded as if nobody knows what hardware you are referring to. So that's why I added the unclear portions. Anyways, can you check the questions in forum? http://cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php/topic,562.0.html - nocash
I know the problems with the web page, well the provider is CMO ,-) What else to say. I'm a customer there just due to some sentimental reasons, not because of the excellent service and pricing *coffing*. And yes my tfm@futureos.de email is broken too. However a PM here will always work. For any kind of discussions I would suggest also the FutureOS yahoo group, because a lot of people can answer there too. Further the Wiki is not complete, which means I own CPC hardware and I support it with FutureOS, but you won't find it in the Wiki now. Another point, please don't expect me to be in the forum that often, as a researcher I'm glad to have some time for the CPC at all. So please be patient if something isn't answered quick or at all. There is no bad intention, no lack of interrest, but my day only has 36 hours ;-).