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| − | + | * ''For older talks please have a look at the [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive1|Archive]].'' | |
| − | + | == Forum == | |
| − | + | Today the [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum Forum] opened its gates. I felt it was necessary because the discussion system of the Wiki is not adequate... It is not meant to replace every talk page, but it's good for general discussion topics :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 09:06, 22 November 2006 (CET) | |
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| − | + | There is a little problem with the pages linked only in the sidebar: they only appear on the default mediawiki theme... | |
| + | There is a list here: [[special:lonelypages]] | ||
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| − | + | ::Ah yes, you're right and I have noticed it myself - though I don't know why anyone would use some other theme, I think this is the best by far :D Anyhow, I'm just waiting to move servers, when this is done I'll look after such details... thanks for pointing out!!! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:03, 28 July 2006 (CDT) | |
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| + | ::There is still 14 orphaned pages... and i prefer using another theme because i use a browser without css support... And what is the difference between [[Applications]] and Utilities ? | ||
| + | :::You are right, I will move the Utilities to the Apps and mark them to be deleted! --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:13, 11 August 2006 (CEST) | ||
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| − | + | As I still don´t understand why we have two search windows I repeat the question if we really need them both? ;-) --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 17:08, 28 August 2006 (CEST) | |
| + | :Yup. The second one (the top one) was added when the sidebar was so tall that the lower search field was out of the screen. Now the sidebar is too short, but it will probably grow again.... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 18:22, 28 August 2006 (CEST) | ||
| + | :: hey.. i'm just waiting for someone who tells me.. REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field and.. booom.. it will be gone :-D [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] | ||
| + | :::Hey Kanga, REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second search field! --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:04, 28 August 2006 (CEST) | ||
| + | ::::Don´t know if anybody else already told you but: REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 21:09, 28 August 2006 (CEST) | ||
| + | ::::Ok, have noticed the Wink with the Zaunpfahl :-) and i will do my job tomorrow, if i find time :-) | ||
| + | :::::Ok, I removed it. Happy, y'all? :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:00, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | ||
| + | :::::Ahh Gryzor did it :) So what? [[User:81.90.35.80|81.90.35.80]] 11:20, 24 September 2006 (CEST) | ||
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| − | + | TBH I like Gryzors rollback of the sidebar, as all the important main links should be mentioned there to have fast access from every point inside CPCWiki. With an usual screen resolution you should see the complete main part of the sidebar, so I don't see any problem with its length. | |
| − | + | Regarding the main page, what's about redesigning it a little bit in the way of most other Wikis like Wikipedia? The main page shouldn't contain the complete site map. I like the style of Wikipedia much more. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:29, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | |
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| − | = | + | :Well, I differ in my opinion with yours. I don't like a big sidebar and prefer a good main page which can bring me directly to the different stuff in the Wiki, because you have much more room there to give a good entry point. Btw, I only use 1024x768 and I so I see it till "Software-Programming" in the sidebar (ok, will change if I get a new notebook someday ;)). Anyway, I will join the majority =). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 19:54, 29 August 2006 (CEST) |
| − | + | :::"Software-Programming" is your last visible entry? 8-O Maybe you choosed a font size of 300% and installed the Google, Yahoo and MSN toolbars at the same time? ;-)) My last entry is "Editing help", well, with 1280x1024. Ok, the sidebar could be still optimized, maybe we can move "About - contribute" to the end (it should be also mentioned on the start page) and remove "PD libraries" as an example (not so important for having an own entry point here IMHO). -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 20:26, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | |
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| − | + | ::The reason I rolled it back to a more expanded list (though I condensed the CPC models) is that, if it's not like that, then surely there's no reason in having a Sidebar? 8) Though I understand that on some resolutions (are you really on '''1024'''?? :D ) the entire SIdebar may not be visible, I think that removing it altogether is much worse than having one that doesn't show in its entirety! | |
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| − | + | :: Concerning the main page, now, it should not be the only launching page - the user should not need to get to the homepage in order to jump to a different category, hence the use of the Sidebar. On the other hand I find it '''much more useful''' as it is right now, than like it was before, though it can be improved somewhat - I'll agree with Prodatron in that it looks somewhat 'dry' right now.[[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:05, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | |
| − | + | ::: Oh come on.. wich BAST)(&" has modified the Sidebar again to that really useless and annoying list of unwanted links :-D Why dont use the mainpage AND the SEARCH to find content, instead of adding things wild, unorganized and useless to the sidebar?? [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 21:49, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | |
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| − | + | :::: You and Octo have your mainpage, and Gryzor and me have our sidebar. Everyone is happy now :-P -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | |
| − | + | ::::: =) --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:52, 30 August 2006 (CEST) | |
| − | + | :::: I think it´s useful to have some more things on the Sidebar than before. But now it´s too much... As Prodi already said PD libraries should be kicked out, also clones and some others too... --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 21:57, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | |
| − | + | ::::: Sounds good! -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | |
| − | + | ::::: It did it in this way and moved "contribute" to the end. Is it better now? Btw, how can I clear the cache? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 22:04, 29 August 2006 (CEST) | |
| − | + | :::: The Bastard is me, I would guess. As I said, the reason for rolling it back is that under the short form, there is simply NO NEED for the sidebar. The sidebar is there for the reader to be able to navigate quickly to all parts of the wiki without having to go to the main page. It is NOT useless, certainly NOT unwanted (I use it all the time instead of the main page links) and I doubt it's annoying - the space is empty if you don't put links there, so it goes wasted. The Main Page is NOT the place to put links on and is much harder to use than the sidebar. Unorganized? I wouldn't think so - the structure is quite ok right now, if anyone can think of ways to improve it, please do step forward. It's not even wild, since it has been tamed a lot since its first appearance, and definitely not unorganized - see the little boxes that organise it? :p [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 09:49, 30 August 2006 (CEST) | |
| − | == | + | == New main page == |
| − | + | I was so free and reorganized the complete main page into the usual "wiki style". | |
| − | + | So the complete link list ("CPCWiki portal") has its own page now - we should improve this page, that nearly all articels can be found there directly or indirectly. | |
| − | + | Regarding the new main page maybe we can add even more sections like "article of the month" or something like this. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 02:40, 1 September 2006 (CEST) | |
| + | :Great. I like the new wikilike design. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 09:58, 1 September 2006 (CEST) | ||
| − | + | ::I am pleased to hear that! We just need to take care about the up-to-dateness. As an example, every one, who is inserting a new entry in the news section should also update the main page. I would also like to suggest and add some guidelines, which describe, what and how to add entries to the different sections in the main page to prevent uncontrolled growth. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:24, 1 September 2006 (CEST) | |
| − | + | ::: I like the new layout as well, it's meaningful and nicely put, although I think it can use a little cleaning over time :) I'm a bit confused as to how news etc works, though, it currently seems to be all over the place and it's difficult to maintain it for someone who doesn't know exactly how... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:37, 1 September 2006 (CEST) | |
| + | :::: Regarding the news I will write a suggestion for the guidline how to insert new news. In general you have a headline, which have to be placed to the news (max 10 entries), the news archive (unlimited) and the main page (max 3 entries). The headline is the article name where you write the news itself + links to the source and the category (month). -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 20:58, 1 September 2006 (CEST) | ||
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| + | == Main picture of the main page == | ||
| + | Gryzor, why have you modified the photo of the main page with the ancient one ? If this wiki is related to cpc, i guess it's not only the cpc 464 and the whole cpc range is concerned...Almost the 464 photo seemd truncated and overlayed by a line. Longshot --[[User:195.154.167.66|195.154.167.66]] 14:53, 23 November 2006 (CET) | ||
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| + | You have reverted modification without any answer about my contrib here about that... | ||
| + | I won't to waste time to update this picture again. Gryzor, you're the main contributor of this site but i think your method is not fair, especially on a site built mainly by contributors.--[[User:Longshot|Longshot]] 13:17, 24 November 2006 (CET) | ||
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| + | : Well. I reverted it to the older version because I assumed there is something wrong with the image, that's all. For some reason the "range" photo won't appear, and I tried it fromt wo different computers and different browsers. Can you try reuploading the image under a new filename and changing the main page? Also, the 464 pic does appear fine for me - tried with Firefox, Opera, IE. As you can see it's not a matter of being 'unfair' - it's a technical issue, despite the fact that I like the 464 one better :) | ||
| + | :PS try to remember to log in before doing any changes.... :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 19:36, 24 November 2006 (CET) | ||
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| + | ::Sorry for the misunderstanding. About the range photo it's strange because i've any problem with ie or firefox (my personal pc) or crazy browser on my professional pc. This picture is a scan i'd modified in 2001 and coming from my site. I've compressed the picture with a newer version of image ready from 53kb to 29.2 kb and i try to upload it again under a new name. Please let me know if the problem occurs again...--[[User:Longshot|Longshot]] 11:46, 26 November 2006 (CET) | ||
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| + | ::: It appears ok now, but I scaled the thumbnail down a bit because it was a big too big... thanks![[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 18:11, 26 November 2006 (CET) | ||
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| + | Is the CPC still in vacation? ;-) Maybe we could remove the picture, to make the info boxes below accessible in a better way again. Are maybe someone has an idea for an other cool frontpage motive? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 22:36, 18 September 2007 (CEST) | ||
Latest revision as of 15:36, 18 September 2007
ATTENTION!
This talk page should only be used for discussions about the Main Page and the Side Bar.
For general CPCWiki related discussions please use the Discussion page.
For suggestions of completely new sections and features, please use the Suggestions page.
- For older talks please have a look at the Archive.
Contents
Forum
Today the Forum opened its gates. I felt it was necessary because the discussion system of the Wiki is not adequate... It is not meant to replace every talk page, but it's good for general discussion topics :) Gryzor 09:06, 22 November 2006 (CET)
Sidebar links
There is a little problem with the pages linked only in the sidebar: they only appear on the default mediawiki theme... There is a list here: special:lonelypages Link them from somewhere else :)
- Ah yes, you're right and I have noticed it myself - though I don't know why anyone would use some other theme, I think this is the best by far :D Anyhow, I'm just waiting to move servers, when this is done I'll look after such details... thanks for pointing out!!! Gryzor 10:03, 28 July 2006 (CDT)
- There is still 14 orphaned pages... and i prefer using another theme because i use a browser without css support... And what is the difference between Applications and Utilities ?
- You are right, I will move the Utilities to the Apps and mark them to be deleted! --Octoate 10:13, 11 August 2006 (CEST)
- There is still 14 orphaned pages... and i prefer using another theme because i use a browser without css support... And what is the difference between Applications and Utilities ?
Search
As I still don´t understand why we have two search windows I repeat the question if we really need them both? ;-) --Villain 17:08, 28 August 2006 (CEST)
- Yup. The second one (the top one) was added when the sidebar was so tall that the lower search field was out of the screen. Now the sidebar is too short, but it will probably grow again.... Gryzor 18:22, 28 August 2006 (CEST)
- hey.. i'm just waiting for someone who tells me.. REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field and.. booom.. it will be gone :-D Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT
- Hey Kanga, REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second search field! --Octoate 21:04, 28 August 2006 (CEST)
- Don´t know if anybody else already told you but: REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field --Villain 21:09, 28 August 2006 (CEST)
- Ok, have noticed the Wink with the Zaunpfahl :-) and i will do my job tomorrow, if i find time :-)
- Ok, I removed it. Happy, y'all? :) Gryzor 20:00, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- Ahh Gryzor did it :) So what? 81.90.35.80 11:20, 24 September 2006 (CEST)
- Hey Kanga, REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second search field! --Octoate 21:04, 28 August 2006 (CEST)
- hey.. i'm just waiting for someone who tells me.. REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field and.. booom.. it will be gone :-D Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT
Mainpage and Sidebar
TBH I like Gryzors rollback of the sidebar, as all the important main links should be mentioned there to have fast access from every point inside CPCWiki. With an usual screen resolution you should see the complete main part of the sidebar, so I don't see any problem with its length.
Regarding the main page, what's about redesigning it a little bit in the way of most other Wikis like Wikipedia? The main page shouldn't contain the complete site map. I like the style of Wikipedia much more. -- Prodatron 16:29, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- Well, I differ in my opinion with yours. I don't like a big sidebar and prefer a good main page which can bring me directly to the different stuff in the Wiki, because you have much more room there to give a good entry point. Btw, I only use 1024x768 and I so I see it till "Software-Programming" in the sidebar (ok, will change if I get a new notebook someday ;)). Anyway, I will join the majority =). --Octoate 19:54, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- "Software-Programming" is your last visible entry? 8-O Maybe you choosed a font size of 300% and installed the Google, Yahoo and MSN toolbars at the same time? ;-)) My last entry is "Editing help", well, with 1280x1024. Ok, the sidebar could be still optimized, maybe we can move "About - contribute" to the end (it should be also mentioned on the start page) and remove "PD libraries" as an example (not so important for having an own entry point here IMHO). -- Prodatron 20:26, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- Here at work I use 2560x1024, so there is no problem here. Maybe I will use a smaller font size and buy some glasses for my notebook ;-) --Octoate 10:52, 30 August 2006 (CEST)
- The reason I rolled it back to a more expanded list (though I condensed the CPC models) is that, if it's not like that, then surely there's no reason in having a Sidebar? 8) Though I understand that on some resolutions (are you really on 1024?? :D ) the entire SIdebar may not be visible, I think that removing it altogether is much worse than having one that doesn't show in its entirety!
- Concerning the main page, now, it should not be the only launching page - the user should not need to get to the homepage in order to jump to a different category, hence the use of the Sidebar. On the other hand I find it much more useful as it is right now, than like it was before, though it can be improved somewhat - I'll agree with Prodatron in that it looks somewhat 'dry' right now.Gryzor 20:05, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- Oh come on.. wich BAST)(&" has modified the Sidebar again to that really useless and annoying list of unwanted links :-D Why dont use the mainpage AND the SEARCH to find content, instead of adding things wild, unorganized and useless to the sidebar?? Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT 21:49, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- You and Octo have your mainpage, and Gryzor and me have our sidebar. Everyone is happy now :-P -- Prodatron 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- =) --Octoate 10:52, 30 August 2006 (CEST)
- I think it´s useful to have some more things on the Sidebar than before. But now it´s too much... As Prodi already said PD libraries should be kicked out, also clones and some others too... --Villain 21:57, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- Sounds good! -- Prodatron 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- It did it in this way and moved "contribute" to the end. Is it better now? Btw, how can I clear the cache? -- Prodatron 22:04, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
- The Bastard is me, I would guess. As I said, the reason for rolling it back is that under the short form, there is simply NO NEED for the sidebar. The sidebar is there for the reader to be able to navigate quickly to all parts of the wiki without having to go to the main page. It is NOT useless, certainly NOT unwanted (I use it all the time instead of the main page links) and I doubt it's annoying - the space is empty if you don't put links there, so it goes wasted. The Main Page is NOT the place to put links on and is much harder to use than the sidebar. Unorganized? I wouldn't think so - the structure is quite ok right now, if anyone can think of ways to improve it, please do step forward. It's not even wild, since it has been tamed a lot since its first appearance, and definitely not unorganized - see the little boxes that organise it? :p Gryzor 09:49, 30 August 2006 (CEST)
New main page
I was so free and reorganized the complete main page into the usual "wiki style". So the complete link list ("CPCWiki portal") has its own page now - we should improve this page, that nearly all articels can be found there directly or indirectly. Regarding the new main page maybe we can add even more sections like "article of the month" or something like this. -- Prodatron 02:40, 1 September 2006 (CEST)
- Great. I like the new wikilike design. --Octoate 09:58, 1 September 2006 (CEST)
- I am pleased to hear that! We just need to take care about the up-to-dateness. As an example, every one, who is inserting a new entry in the news section should also update the main page. I would also like to suggest and add some guidelines, which describe, what and how to add entries to the different sections in the main page to prevent uncontrolled growth. -- Prodatron 16:24, 1 September 2006 (CEST)
- I like the new layout as well, it's meaningful and nicely put, although I think it can use a little cleaning over time :) I'm a bit confused as to how news etc works, though, it currently seems to be all over the place and it's difficult to maintain it for someone who doesn't know exactly how... Gryzor 20:37, 1 September 2006 (CEST)
- Regarding the news I will write a suggestion for the guidline how to insert new news. In general you have a headline, which have to be placed to the news (max 10 entries), the news archive (unlimited) and the main page (max 3 entries). The headline is the article name where you write the news itself + links to the source and the category (month). -- Prodatron 20:58, 1 September 2006 (CEST)
- I like the new layout as well, it's meaningful and nicely put, although I think it can use a little cleaning over time :) I'm a bit confused as to how news etc works, though, it currently seems to be all over the place and it's difficult to maintain it for someone who doesn't know exactly how... Gryzor 20:37, 1 September 2006 (CEST)
Main picture of the main page
Gryzor, why have you modified the photo of the main page with the ancient one ? If this wiki is related to cpc, i guess it's not only the cpc 464 and the whole cpc range is concerned...Almost the 464 photo seemd truncated and overlayed by a line. Longshot --195.154.167.66 14:53, 23 November 2006 (CET)
You have reverted modification without any answer about my contrib here about that... I won't to waste time to update this picture again. Gryzor, you're the main contributor of this site but i think your method is not fair, especially on a site built mainly by contributors.--Longshot 13:17, 24 November 2006 (CET)
- Well. I reverted it to the older version because I assumed there is something wrong with the image, that's all. For some reason the "range" photo won't appear, and I tried it fromt wo different computers and different browsers. Can you try reuploading the image under a new filename and changing the main page? Also, the 464 pic does appear fine for me - tried with Firefox, Opera, IE. As you can see it's not a matter of being 'unfair' - it's a technical issue, despite the fact that I like the 464 one better :)
- PS try to remember to log in before doing any changes.... :) Gryzor 19:36, 24 November 2006 (CET)
- Sorry for the misunderstanding. About the range photo it's strange because i've any problem with ie or firefox (my personal pc) or crazy browser on my professional pc. This picture is a scan i'd modified in 2001 and coming from my site. I've compressed the picture with a newer version of image ready from 53kb to 29.2 kb and i try to upload it again under a new name. Please let me know if the problem occurs again...--Longshot 11:46, 26 November 2006 (CET)
- It appears ok now, but I scaled the thumbnail down a bit because it was a big too big... thanks!Gryzor 18:11, 26 November 2006 (CET)
CPC taking a day off
Is the CPC still in vacation? ;-) Maybe we could remove the picture, to make the info boxes below accessible in a better way again. Are maybe someone has an idea for an other cool frontpage motive? -- Prodatron 22:36, 18 September 2007 (CEST)
