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Protection The reason I deleted it is like censorship in my opinion. Could be ok in this casebecause it turned into a flame, this anonymouse user tries to rollback his advertisement every few days. People shouldn't be disinformed and waste time with searching for nonalso because some people do not understand how to format their edits by using semi-existing stuff like mecolons to keep the thread flow easy to understand. As a result it was a flame that was very hard to follow. RodeI will just keep the following:

The changes made by Rode are NOT correctarticle will remain locked for the time being. Please remove Rodes changes, because they arenIt't true. Further protection should be introduced only aginst Rodes really unfortunate that events are taking such a turn, who at a time when the wiki is introducing errorsexpanding at a good rate, just which means that someone will have to discredit keep an eye on all that is being written. Let's see if the project FutureOSdiscussion cools down a bit, then decide. TFM

Some headwords:* with 16 years not new; actual release is 6 years oldThat said, next one (next year?) contains 4 new features* limitation to 512K files, no random access* no memory management, only a strange table* every seriose CPC software is written in Z80* 48K maximum ram usage only by the OS (read your manual) should be mentioned in the "requirements"* no support for different printers, serial interfaces/CPC booster* mouse can't be used in own programs, only during file selection (so-called "GUI")My sources: program itself, rom description, manuals. As you remember I asked you in your mailing list, but you censored my 2nd mail. Bad behaviour initial article and needless misinformation, I invested a lot of time. It's ok, that other people won't be misinformed. Rode Some true words:* The actual version (system .8) is 3 months old.* the length of a file is only limited by the space on disc or harddisc (that means 5 MB subsequent edits were nothing less than shameless plugs for the Dobbertin HD20). Look at routines TEILA/TEILB and TEISI/TEISK. I told that before.* there is memory management (for example use EFER).* may be that nearly all serious CPC software is written in Z80 assember, so where is the problem???* the OS needs only RAM from &A000 to &BFFF. That are 8 KB not 48 KB. Read again. More RAM is only used when DIRectorys have to be buffered. Normally maximal 16 KB more.* There is support for 7 Bit and 8 Bit printer output (CPC old genereation or CPC-Plus, which use different ways to print 8 Bit characters). Serial interfaces support will be documented after XzentriX 2006, as I wrote before.* The Desktop can be called as a subroutine, mouses can be used that way. But thank your for the hint, I will provide mouse-support as own routine in the next update. Further see H_JC which enables you to use joysticks and all joystick-compatible medias (also mouses and trackballs).About your sources: There is NOT written what you talking about, please read again. Or better ask first! If you don't agree please copy and paste the corresponding information.Your second mail was censored, because in the FutureOS-ML is no place for defamations. I explained you that in detail in the mail I sent you some days ago.If people get misinformed, then this is just your merit. So I hope to clear some things here. Greets to all CPC users.TFM * ''The actual version (system .8) is 3 months old.'': The OS is 16years old, not the actual still unfinshed version. In any case this ad-phrase doesn't belong into a Wiki article. Please see other articles. Actual system .8 (exact that version you can download) is fully functional and working. A part of it is new written. And ok, some just perfect routines are still 16 years old, because the run pretty well, so why they should be changed? * ''the length of a file is only limited by the space on disc or harddisc (that means 5 MB for the Dobbertin HD20). Look at routines TEILA/TEILB and TEISI/TEISK. I told that before.'': Bizarre routines. Do you really think, that someone will use it? And what can I do if I want to access the last part of publish a 4MB file? You even dont use it by yourself in this "filmaker" (or how it is called)plug, as you split the file into 16k ones. Strange. Please don't use polemics, when you're just wrong again. Filmemacher is NOT the OS. * ''there is memory management (for example use EFER).'': Not mentioned. Will you describe put it in the "future", too? And please do some improvements on your label naming, believe me, it's very embarrassing. As I told numerous times before, the documentation will be updated after 9.9.2006. * ''may be that nearly all serious CPC software is written in Z80 assember, so where is the problem???'': Advertisement. That phrase is not from me. Originally there stod that the OS is written in Z80 assembler. So what's your problem? That is just an information, as like that other OSes are written in C for example. * ''the OS needs only RAM from &A000 to &BFFF. That are 8 KB not 48 KB. Read again. More RAM is only used when DIRectorys have to be buffered. Normally maximal 16 KB more.'': No comment. I read and experienced something completely different. Read your own manual or rewrite your OS. Everybode read the same, expect you. * ''There is support for 7 Bit and 8 Bit printer output (CPC old genereation or CPCProfile page --Plus, which use different ways to print 8 Bit characters).'': Yes, and no printer support. Big difference. Pfff, that's just your oppinion. Maybe provided you understand something differecnt as support than me. Maybe the CPC is no PC. * create one''Serial interfaces support will be documented after XzentriX 2006, as I wrote before.'': Great.* ''The Desktop can be called as a subroutine, mouses can be used that way. But thank your for the hint, I will provide mouse-support as own routine in the next update.: Great.* Further see H_JC which enables you to use joysticks and all joystick-compatible medias (also mouses and trackballs).'': Keyboard support as usual. I spoke about the mouses, you mentioned.''Your second mail was censored, because in the FutureOS-ML is no place for defamations. I explained you that in detail in the mail I sent you some days ago.'': Didn't receive it. If you call questions and facts "defamations" it's do not my problem. Unbelieveable behaviour. Good, that you can't censore something here. Yes, right, your behaviour post anonymously! Why is really unbeliveable. If you don't like FutureOS, why don't you keep it for yourself. I don't see any help coming from you, just negative stuff. ''So I hope so darn hard to clear some things here.'': Not really''Greets to all CPC users.'': Greets to all, who are able to create a CPCWiki account.[[User:Rode|Rode]] Greets to you, you have learnt to increase your kind of polemics. But you are still no help for cpc-wiki. :: Please try to finish understand this discussion. I don't like to unprotect the article until this has been done. It seems, that Rode already tried to program with FutureOS and made some experiences. Did anyone else do it beside TFM and Rode and can participate here? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 13:53, 28 August 2006 (CEST) It only seems that he tried to program, if he really would have tried it he wouldn't argue that way. He just don't like FutureOS, so he tries to trample on it. ::: As the past has shown the discussion will never be finished. I dont like the idea of unlocking the article because I know what will follow. There should be an objective article that is only changed by administrators if necessary. Sad but true. --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 17:05, 28 August 2006 (CEST) Yes the article should be protected against users, that only want to discredite the project. :::: The article will remain locked for the time being. It's really unfortunate that events are taking such a turn, at a time when the wiki is expanding at a good rate, which means that someone will have to keep an eye on all that is being written. Let's see if the discussion cools down a bit, then decide. ?? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1819:2642, 28 29 August 2006 (CEST) ----''Filmemacher is NOT the OS.'': I see, applications can't load long files. More parts of the article have to be corrected or deleted. ''Everybode read the same, expect you.'': From the manual: ''"Block 0: from &0000 to &3FFF [...] You shouldn't use this block for longer times, because of the OS (Desktop) uses it [...] Block 2: from &8000 to &BFFF [...] The OS uses maximal 8K (between &A000 and &BFFF)."'' Makes 16K+8K plus 2K for each directory (12x max=24K) in the "E-RAM" =48K max. Btw, I didn't count the 16K additional memory for ''each'' open file, when using FIOLIB, which would waste another big amount of memory. ''If you don't like FutureOS, why don't you keep it for yourself.'': It's not the question if I like it or not but the question, if someone should be allowed to post advertisments and misinformation. Because of this misinformation I became very frustrated, when trying to do something useful with this bizarre construction. Should be avoided. ''But you are still no help for cpc-wiki.'': Strange hearing this from a person, who uses an anonymouse IP and is only working on the advertisment for his own single CPC production, instead of contributing to CPCWiki in general, like everyone else does. [[User:Rode|Rode]]