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'''New Logo''' I had a few minutes, so I did this [http://www.cpcscene.com/wiki.png little logo] for ==Moving the wiki. Feel free to use it (or not). - Grim/Arkos: Very nice!: Hello mate, thanks for your effort! I'm afraid it's a bit too busy, lacking a bit in coherence... I know mine is not very much cpc-related, so if you can improve yours... Cheers! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:08, 11 August 2006 (CEST)----'''Main page:''' Yesterday, Kanga and me thought about how to do a good entry point for the articles of the Wiki and came to the conclusion that the main page wastes too much space and the sidebar gets too big. If it is ok, I will think about a new design of the main page during the weekend and maybe prepare a first design under in the "Loose Lemmas" article. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:09, 11 August 2006 (CEST):Basically, I was thinking of creating text boxes on the main page. That was my intention right from the beginning, and I thought I'd do it once there's enough stuff. I'm not too sure about how to shorten the sidebar, though... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:08, 11 August 2006 (CEST):: Just dont add the whole CPC Models again :-) summarize the stuff in "CPC-Models" and you won 4-Lines in the Side.Bar [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 22:20, 11 August 2006 (CEST):::Well, I know you're somewhat right, but I'd like to hope that by having them there would motivate someone to write something extensive on a single model... later on maybe I'll pull it in (probably two entries: CPC and CPC+/GX4000)... By the way, I've managed to tidy up the Sidebar a bit. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 07:12, 12 August 2006 (CEST)----search==
'''PNG''' when tryig field a bit more to add a PNG-File, there occurs an error saying that the png is not correct. Can you please check if PNG is enabled in top of the wiki configurationleft menu will be nice, so its easier to search articles without scrolling around. Thank Hope you can do that PLEAAAASE :-) [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 2109:2136, 9 5 August 2006 (CEST):Will look into it, That would be nice - I thought i had think it fixed... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06should be higher, 10 August 2006 (CEST):: Darntoo... I can't get it to work! what has to be done The problem is add , this line has to LocalSettings.php: $wgFileExtensions = array( 'png'do with the skin, and I'jpg', 'jpeg', 'ogg','doc','xls','ppt','mp3','pdf' ); listing all the extensions you needm not yet as comfortable with customising it... wellif someone knows how, I changed LocalSettings.php and also changed DefaultSettings.php (though not advisable), extensions are not blacklisted but it '''still won't work'''!!! ARGH!!!please step forward! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 0816:4748, 11 5 August 2006 (CEST)----
'''Math:''' Today I wanted to add some formulas (very simple!) to describe the mathmatic background of a routine. Are <math> Tags supported? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Which article did you edit? Can you try emailing me? You have not verified your email address and I can't send you an email... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)----==More Fileformats==
'''Menu:''' The menu entry "In short should be added, so upload of PDF and ZIP- history" nearly contains all necessary informations about the different CPC modelsFiles will be possible. Maybe we I Think a lot of manuals and stuff is in PDF-Format or some Freeware / Shareware / Public Domain Programmes can delete be directly addes to the entries for the different models and add a new entry for the technical informations pages (CRTC, GateArray, etc.Wanted to do that with the SOundtrakkr 128K). What do you think So its will be great if someone who reads something about a demo or programm also can download the DSK or whatever to run it?on an emulator or cpc.:I completely agree with itMore file extensions allowed now. We should group it in a technical specifications article. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:04You can actually upload zip, 9 August 2006 rar (CESTpreferred due to better compression):Or maybe we just group the "old generation", so we have 2 or 3 entries? Don't know... -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:09, 9 August 2006 pdf and mp3 (CESTfor all those tape conversions!)::Hmm. Nevertheless, but wouldncan't it better if the informations are collected in one article (less mouseclicks -> I'm lazy ;)). --a manual be copied as txt? [[User:OctoateGryzor|OctoateGryzor]] 2109:1800, 9 6 August 2006 (CEST):This article is intended indeed as a short introduction. : THIS IS NOT!! working  I do believe that quite have tried to upload a bit more can be written about each specific model, so I think they are worth PDFand a page of their ownZIP.Both doesn't work..? Please check that and correct it [[User:GryzorKangaroo|GryzorKangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 1022:0653, 10 9 August 2006 (CEST)Yoi can split the page up, when more content is added into the models, but you need not add them to the sidebar if you can summarize it up. Just "check" out what we will do to the peripherals-pages ==Adding templates:-) later----==
'''Adding templates:''' We should add some templates to mark articles for e.g. deletion. You can see the reason for the need for templates if you have a look at the article about [[Beau Jolly]]. You can find examples for that kind of templates in the original wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages).
:Hmmm I'm not really sure what you mean... the Beau Jolly page is a harmless prank - at least I consider it so at this point. If and when the wiki gets bigger and to such a size that systematic patrolling is needed, then I think we can start putting some mechanisms into place... For now, just reading the changes and glancing at the pages is surely enough? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:07, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
::I meant the template signs of Wikipedia to simply add warning, etc. Here is an direct example of some different marks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes We don't need all signs, of course, but some to easily mark articles for deletion or for the need of an improvement would be nice (no automatic robots - just to mark the articles). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 14:24, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
::: <pre>require_once( "$IP/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php" );</pre>,
:::it says it has to go to the end of LocalSettings.php. But if I do place it there (before the closing tag), it breaks the whole wiki... darn. Will try to look into it. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:32, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
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'''More Fileformats''' should be added, so upload of PDF and ZIP-Files will be possible. I Think a lot of manuals and stuff is in PDF-Format or some Freeware / Shareware / Public Domain Programmes can be directly addes to the pages (Wanted to do that with the SOundtrakkr 128K). So its will be great if someone who reads something about a demo or programm also can download the DSK or whatever to run it on an emulator or cpc.==Menu: More file extensions allowed now. You can actually upload zip, rar (preferred due to better compression), pdf and mp3 (for all those tape conversions!). Nevertheless, can't a manual be copied as txt? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 09:00, 6 August 2006 (CEST):: '''THIS IS NOT!! working'''. I have tried to upload a PDFand a ZIP. Both doesn't work. Please check that and correct it [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 22:53, 9 August 2006 (CEST)----==
'''Moving The menu entry "In short - history" nearly contains all necessary informations about the search''' field a bit more to different CPC models. Maybe we can delete the top of entries for the left menu will be nicedifferent models and add a new entry for the technical informations (CRTC, so its easier to search articles without scrolling aroundGateArray, etc. Hope you can ). What do that PLEAAAASE you think about it?:I completely agree with it. We should group it in a technical specifications article. --) [[User:KangarooProdatron|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTProdatron]] 0917:3604, 5 9 August 2006 (CEST):That would be nice - I think it should be higherOr maybe we just group the "old generation", tooso we have 2 or 3 entries? Don't know. The problem is.. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:09, this has to do with the skin9 August 2006 (CEST)::Hmm, and but wouldn't it better if the informations are collected in one article (less mouseclicks -> I'm not yet lazy ;)). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST):This article is intended indeed as comfortable with customising ita short introduction.I do believe that quite a bit more can be written about each specific model, so I think they are worth a page of their own.. if someone knows how, please step forward! .? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1610:4806, 5 10 August 2006 (CEST)Yoi can split the page up, when more content is added into the models, but you need not add them to the sidebar if you can summarize it up. Just "check" out what we will do to the peripherals-pages :---) later
I think it would be nice to have a menu link to technical documentation and sourcecode (routine collection) on the left side. You then can put articles like 'Hardware scrolling' in this categories... --[[User==Math:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:14, 3 July 2006 (CDT): That's a really good idea - it would be nice to be able to post source code here.... --[[User:ChaRleyTroniC|ChaRleyTroniC]] 17:00, 3 July 2006 (CDT): Indeed it's a nice idea, and I thought about it upon looking at the source code provided over at the Zone. Will add a link when I get back from work :) - [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:35, 3 July 2006 (CDT)----I think it will be a good idea to do localisation. So i can add or translate Pages into german, cause my english writing is not that good as needed for the wiki. I'll do my best, but hey.. there are a few users around wich cannot write nor read english, so it will be a help for them. What do you think about localisation? [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 09:31, 5 August 2006 (CEST)==
: Today I would be a little bit afraid, that this could split up our forces, as it is a lot additional work. Maybe people would start writing only in their native languages. Better wanted to have an article in bad english add some formulas (which can be corrected by other peoplevery simple!) than having it only in to describe the mathmatic background of a "local" language routine. Are <math> Tags supported? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (which CEST):Which article did you edit? Can you try emailing me? You have not verified your email address and I can't be read by other people)send you an email.. But that's just my opinion. -- [[User:ProdatronGryzor|ProdatronGryzor]] 1310:1206, 5 10 August 2006 (CEST)
:: I have the same opinion like Prodatron. It's much more work and both Wikis will be different. You can see an example for that situation on the [http://wiki.gp2x.org GP2X Wiki] and this device has a much bigger userbase. I guess the most common language should be used, so we should write greek.... aehm... english ;-). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:57, 5 August 2006 (CEST)==PNG==
: I think this was discussed before... I'm not against content in other languages, but I'm worried this will lead when tryig to lots of content being in French, German or Spanish, hence for add a limited audience. So I was thinking that maybe it should be allowed as long as PNG-File, there occurs an english translation error saying that the png is providednot correct. In any case, maybe we can allow it with Can you please check if PNG is enabled in the provision that this will, eventually, be translatedwiki configuration. But if we see that no translations are doneThank you [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 21:21, then maybe 9 August 2006 (CEST):Will look into it shouldn't continue, I thought i had it fixed... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1610:3806, 5 10 August 2006 (CEST):: i dont think its clever to do Darn... I can't get it that way so it will to work! what has to be better done is add this line to have only english as main languageLocalSettings. the problem also will bephp: $wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', that the content will move away in different languages'jpg', so information will be vailable in german but are not at 'jpeg', 'ogg','doc','xls','ppt','mp3','pdf' ); listing all the english page extensions you need... well, I changed LocalSettings.php and so onalso changed DefaultSettings. dont know how php (though not advisable), extensions are not blacklisted but it can be handled to have everything with the same content in different languagesstill won't work !! ARGH!!!! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 08:47, 11 August 2006 (CEST)
==Main page:== Yesterday, Kanga and me thought about how to do a good entry point for the articles of the Wiki and came to the conclusion that the main page wastes too much space and the sidebar gets too big. If it is ok, I will think about a new design of the main page during the weekend and maybe prepare a first design under in the "Loose Lemmas" article. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:09, 11 August 2006 (CEST):Basically, I was thinking of creating text boxes on the main page. That was my intention right from the beginning, and I thought I'd do it once there's enough stuff. I'm not too sure about how to shorten the sidebar, though... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:08, 11 August 2006 (CEST):: Just dont add the whole CPC Models again :-) summarize the stuff in "CPC-Models" and you won 4-Lines in the Side.Bar [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 22:20, 11 August 2006 (CEST):::Well, I know you're somewhat right, but I'd like to hope that by having them there would motivate someone to write something extensive on a single model... later on maybe I'll pull it in (probably two entries: CPC and CPC+/GX4000)... By the way, I've managed to tidy up the Sidebar a bit. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 07:12, 12 August 2006 (CEST) ==New Logo== I had a few minutes, so I did this [http://www.cpcscene.com/wiki.png little logo] for the wiki. Feel free to use it (or not). - Grim/Arkos: Very nice!: Hello mate, thanks for your effort! I'm afraid it's a bit too busy, lacking a bit in coherence... I know mine is not very much cpc-related, so if you can improve yours... Cheers! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:08, 11 August 2006 (CEST)
== Archive Talk page format==
Btw, shouldn't Could we better add new entries here at the end of the textplease stay with this usual format for talk pages? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 23:02, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Not really, old stuff It is getting pushed to used in all the bottom which is nice :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06other Wikis, 10 August 2006 (CEST)----Hiand as you see, if I add there is a JPG with the '|thumb' command, it doesn't show on the page (e.g. [[CPC Schneider International]]). What am I doing wrong? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 01:02, 5 August 2006 (CEST):I also think, that the "thumb+" feature is not working yet. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 03:18function, 5 August 2006 (CEST): I'm having troubles with the permissions on the serverwhich supports this format, too. The Wiki needs Every new entry is placed at the image folder to be chmod'ed to 777end, but some of the subfolders do not have full access yetat the top. I'm trying It is also more easy to chmod all of them, but how do I make sure that the newly created ones will be 777? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 08:38, 5 August 2006 (CEST)::if you need help or Shell-Access on the server to do chmod -r comands on dirs, just give me jump into a call and i will set it up for you. [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 09:27, 5 August 2006 (CEST):::Problem solved indeed :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 16:38, 5 August 2006 (CEST)----'''Real names with the pseudonym?''' Shall we add the real names section to continue the scene-informations as we know it? Maybe it's very helpfull to add the real name to remember the personsdiscussion there. So in my case i will add "Kangaroo MusiQue (Thorsten Norman Mitschele). What do you think about that? [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 09:48, 5 August 2006 (CEST) :Well, absolutely, why not? I mean, there's nothing stopping you doing so anyway, and in general a real name would be welcome indeed, to go with Time by time the pseudonym... Maybe a photo too :)----Maybe its possible to make a list of all software-houses like Ocean, Alligata etc. Where we contributes can add some nice informations about those companies?: You can actually add a link yourself. If you go be moved into The [[Games]] section you can add a link about [[Software Houses]] and start adding. Maybe I will add it to the sidebar as well :) - [[UserTalk:GryzorMain Page/Archive1|Gryzorarchive]] 22:35, 3 July 2006 (CDT). ----Why does the crap keep getting posted at the bottom of the main page... bloody spammers! [[User:ExecutionerProdatron|ExecutionerProdatron]]18:Indeed... I have noticed your work (you always get to it faster than me!)19, and I really thank you for that. This is what you get for allowing posts without registering, but I think it's worth it continuing like this, at least for a while, and see how it goes... Thanks so much! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 02:16, 22 July 12 August 2006 (CDTCEST)